So by using this rifle in the tests, it can help give some context for the amount of recoil we’re talking about. And as normal, it does a better job of reducing the peak of the recoil than it does to reduce the total amount of momentum coming back at the shooter. The 6mm and 6.5mm cartridges should obviously be representative of the most popular precision rifle cartridges in the Precision Rifle Series, since those are extremely popular calibers for those practical/tactical style competitions. As we discussed in the recoil post, when someone claims a product “reduces recoil by 50%” … it usually isn’t clear what they’re talking about. The 300 Norma Mag test rifle featured a 27” Lilja Palma 30B contour barrel (similar to a Medium Palma contour). I am very glad I waited a while and you are helping me getting my dream gun built for ultra long range shooting. While most muzzle brakes simply screw on the threaded part of the muzzle, the Badger FTE brakes screw on and clamp onto the barrel. The rifle I used is not a precision rifle, but it represents something most people are familiar with. suppressors and accessories, should the user decide to remove the factory brake. Instead of a .264 Win. I am concerned about the extra recoil. Oh, the sacrifices I make in the name of science! I am considering to add a brake to my Remington 700 XCR Long Range 300 Win Mag — I presume that will require a specific thread pattern based on the brake I choose. On the 6XC, the reduction for the overall momentum (green line) and peak force (blue lines) were very similar, with the impulse being decreased by 2% more on average. That helps me know I’m on the right track. A forum community dedicated to Sharpshooters and Sniper enthusiasts. So it is my bookend for the 30 caliber! If/when I test another batch, I’ll likely let my readers vote on which ones are included. This just reinforces the value of data-driven tests, over merely reading people’s opinions. This time though, the American Precision Arms brake is the larger Fat B* model, and not their Little B*. I may end up testing 338 brakes at some point, but I don’t have it on the schedule for 2015. Ruger Marksman Adjustable™ trigger is externally adjustable, with a trigger pull range of 2.25 to 5 pounds; wrench is stored in the bolt shroud. vg6 precision. Thanks for the encouragement. You need a donate button or something. baffles redirected gases to move to sides or even rearward, and during that collision “an equal and opposite” amount of momentum is applied to the baffles, pushing them away from the shooter and offsetting recoil). Recoil was just one aspect of muzzle brake performance. Mag .243 Winchester.270 Winchester .22 - 250.25 - 06 .223 Remington Sep 3, 2018 #1 Adding a Min Mag 300 to may 6.5 Creedmore for something different. Thanks . .300 Win Mag Recoil Tamed by Kahntrol Muzzle Brake - Range Testing. The .300 Win Mag has an unpleasant recoil. KDF, INC. developed and produced the first muzzle brake … Unbelievable reduction in recoil and almost no muzzle lift. There is some overlap (like the APA), but I believe Alamo is working on a completely different brake for a 338 and a completely different brake design for a 50 cal. There is a benefit to a 5 port on cases about the size of a 300 win mag and up. That is yet to be seen. The Remington is also one of the best muzzle brakes for 300 Win Mag that features simple stainless steel construction with a silver-colored finish. There are 2 ways you can support the website, and you can see those here: http://precisionrifleblog.com/support/. I really value your input from a more scientific point of view. The rifle will start off as a Rem 700P. Any expert suggestions would be very helpful. Here are the muzzle brakes I wasn’t able to test on the 300 Norma rifle: There are still A LOT of interesting results left to be published on this field test. Thanks for the feedback! I personally like the American Precision Arms Little B* or even Fat B* for a 300 Win Mag. Adding a Min Mag 300 to may 6.5 Creedmore for something different. The 300 Norma Mag cartridge has 11% more powder capacity than the 300 Win Mag, and represents one of the largest 30 caliber magnums. So you can see how the muzzle brake performed with and without the suppressor attached. That’s interesting data. Our installation is threaded 5/8-28 on-center and finished with our 11º center-to-center Target Crown. 300 win mag with a kahntrol muzzle brake. But, are they the best? I do appreciate the question, because I didn’t even realize I had published the data for a TOMB brake with and without the suppressor attached. 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Rated for 300 Win Mag, 30-06 Springfield, 30-30 Win, 300 Savage, 308 Norma, 308 Win, 7.62×51, 300 RUM; MINIMUM BARREL LENGTH 16″ BARREL THREAD 5/8-24 UNEF-2B; BARREL THREAD LENGTH MINIMUM .600″ MATERIAL. But for this lightweight 308 Win, all the brakes were much more effective at reducing the peak force than they were at reducing the overall momentum. I like small groups when I hand load, but but like to shoo... Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Some of these are also true to some extent with a muzzle brake. First off: OUTSTANDING work you’ve done here. ... My .308 Winchester and .300 Winchester Short Magnum both have muzzle brakes. Can you please give me your recommendation on your preferred muzzle brake? You’re absolutely correct. That’s why I actually get out in the field and test this stuff and don’t just talk about it! Hope my ramblings answer your questions. This muzzle brake can also be mounted easily over a muzzle with ½-28 threads. I started out firing 5 shots per muzzle brake, but as I refined the system and setup, my data became so consistent and repeatable that 5 shots seemed like I was just wasting a lot of good match-grade ammo without adding any value. Which ones help you stay on target? http://www.americanprecisionarms.com/p- ... brake.aspx, Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Honestly 300 win down i don't personally like brakes But i'm dealing with alot youth shooters shooting up to a 300 win mag. The following data ... .243 Winchester.300 Winchester Mag .243 Winchester.30 - 06 Springfield .243 Winchester: 7mm Remington Mag .243 Winchester.270 Wby. How woukd usage of a muzzle brake and suppressor (surefire) effect the outcome? 4th: You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. I was excited to see how the empirical data stacked up to the hype I read online. After reading a ton of forum threads, I bought an OPS brake for that rifle. For more info on the test equipment and how the data was gathered, please see the recoil post. For the barrel clamp to fit, the muzzle of the barrel must be very specific dimensions, which often means you need to pay a gunsmith to contour to it to those dimensions. 22 Comments. And you’re right. Any .224-.45 cal. While the 6XC, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 308 all have similar case capacity, the 300 Norma will help us understand what happens to muzzle brake performance when you significantly increase powder charge and bullet weight. The Fat B* was originally designed for big magnums like the 338 Lapua, but they also offer it in 7mm and 30 caliber versions … so I included it in the 308 Win tests. According to their data, that should be launching 230gr bullets around 2700 fps. The 300 Norma Mag cartridge has 11% more powder capacity than the 300 Win Mag, and represents one of the largest 30 caliber magnums. Without your input, many of us will feel lost in getting the right equipment. While not all of my readers have had the pleasure to shoot a really high-end precision rifle (like the other 3 test rifles), almost everyone has fired a rifle similar to this. The 300 Norma Magnum (not be confused with the old 308 Norma Mag), is the newest cartridge in our line-up. This muzzle brake is the ideal … Mag. But what about a larger 30 caliber cartridge? We started True North Arms in 2016 with the goal to create a comprehensive Canadian online source for AR-15 parts, tools, and accessories. The Alamo Four Star would also be a good choice. Should be easy. Cal: Ha! Stay tuned! I was a bit skeptical with the clamp on idea because of the pressures developed by a 300 Win Mag but it delivered as promised. I found some 300 Norma load data that appears to be from Berger, and loaded 82.0gr of H1000 to stay well within safe pressures. Then you will never need a muzzle brake. I considered the 300 Win Mag, but decided to go a little bigger … the 300 Norma Magnum. The new Alamo Four Star Cowl Induction Muzzle Brake was right there with it though, with virtually identical performance. This will be used … That means these muzzle brakes are doing a lot of work, considering the recoil a large magnum cartridge like this produces, especially running a heavy 230gr bullet. Though I know that might be asking alot. Mag., buy a rifle in .260 Rem. This means short action non-magnum calibers like .243 win, 6.5 Creedmoor, and .308 are best for 3 ports. 416 Stainless Steel; Salt Bath Nitride Finish; MOUNTING Shrouded Timing Nut; MASS. Many suppressors (if not most) aren’t rated to handle something as big as the 300 Norma. There is still a lot to be covered and I have a ton of ideas that I haven’t been able to get to. In my experience the TBAC suppressors definitely don’t have a negative impact on precision (which some suppressors do), and could improve it slightly. And the muzzle brake clearly does better at reducing recoil … as I measured in this study. Come join the discussion about optics, modifications, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! 4 ports tend to be all that is needed for the smaller magnums and most of the long action non-magnum cases. Here are links to the others: Tags 300 Norma Mag 308 Winchester Alamo Four Star Alamo Four Star Muzzle Brake American Precision Arms APA Fat Bastard APA Little Bastard Badger Muzzle Brake Center Shot Rifles CSR Blast Tamer Muzzle Brake Federal Gold Medal Match Ammo Holland's Muzzle Brake Impact Precision JEC Customs JEC Muzzle Brake JP Muzzle Brake Muzzle Brake Reviews OPS Muzzle Brake Recoil Seekins Precision Shrewd Muzzle Brake Surefire TBAC Suppressor Thunder Beast ThunderBeast Suppressor Todd Hodnett TriDelta Muzzle Brake Tubb Muzzle Brake West Texas Ordnance. As always, I really appreciate your hard work! I think it’d be healthy for the industry as well, and I know as consumers we’d all win. Recently purchased a Remington Sendero 2 300 win mag with a 26 inch fluted barrel. And there is a donate button, but I just don’t push it. Muzzle Brake Comparison Chart. Eventually all of the gas escapes along the path of the bullet, and none goes to the sides. If a hunting rifle is equipped with a muzzle brake it should be removable, for the reasons cited above. Since the 300 Norma is so new, there isn’t much load data out there for it. One big difference between the results for the 308 Win and the results for the 6XC and 6.5 Creedmoor was the difference between how much it was able to decrease the peak force compared to the overall momentum. Thanks for the encouragement. Trying to find an adaptor to fit the current barrel, and have threaded to fit the 5/8x24 thread. Non threaded. I was obviously disappointed by the results. There are just a billion brakes out there, so I couldn’t test them all. Email inbound with regards to barrels. So, although there are more baffles in a suppressor (9″ long instead of a 3″ long muzzle brake), they don’t take advantage of redirecting gas. Here are the recoil results for the muzzle brakes on our 300 mag: And, once again … the Alamo Four Star and American Precision Arms muzzle brakes are out in front. They’re obviously really effective designs. I have a savage in 300 win mag with the adjustable muzzle brake on it. This rifle may also help us understand how the rifle weight plays into the recoil equation, and how that affects muzzle brake performance as a percentage of recoil reduction. the recoil feels like a 243 or a 308 with 110gr vmax's. For the 30 caliber, I knew I’d risk getting hate mail for years if I didn’t include the 308 Win. Perhaps you could inform the respective manufacturers about your unbiased comparison, and you could trade free marketing for free brakes for testing. Peak force was reduced by 16% more on average than momentum. It looks like the brake was 4% more effective on the 308 and 8% more effective on the 300 Norma than when the suppressor was threaded onto the brake. Bought a muzzle brake for my .300 Win Mag. The best answer to the muzzle brake question is simply to avoid calibers that generate more recoil than you can comfortably tolerate. That statement probably deserves a little explanation, because I know I’d throw up the BS flag if I heard that not too long ago. I appreciate this to no end, and I extremely happy to find something this comprehensive, straightforward, and data driven as what you have done here. . SNipe is right that brake is a good brake. I bought this muzzle brake for my 300 Win Mag on a Rem 700 LR platform. I have a badger FTE. They have a “symbiotic relationship” for lack of a better term. And I personally think Thunder Beast (TBAC) suppressors are the best that money can buy. It was designed in 2012, about the same time as Berger’s release of the 230gr Hybrid bullet … and the two make a perfect pair. Purchased a Sandman L suppressor. Trijicon Ventus: Measuring Range AND WIND! That really gets you into a completely different product, which is why I just focused this test on 6mm through 30 caliber. Some guys might find it interesting, but it may not be worth the effort it would take. I am concerned about the extra recoil. I also included a “High-End 9-inch Suppressor” for comparison on this rifle. I didn’t test the Surefire suppressor, so I can’t say for sure. ar-15 gamma 300blk muzzle brake 300 blackout. Good to know you found this helpful. The easiest way to decrease recoil on a lightweight hunting rifle is to add a muzzle brake and a recoil pad. I learned a lot, and hopefully it helps manufacturers understand what designs are most effective. https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-308-muzzle-brakes-compensators (1) Am I correct in my screw-off-screw-on assumption? Tags: muzzle brake; John Halter. After just a few rounds, I don’t care about shooting it anymore. Joined: Sep 1, 2018 Messages: 4. I currently have a Rem 700 in 300 winmag being built. The transition from 4 to 5 ports is about 65-70grs. (in stock) 4.8 (3) Because of that design constraint, it might be surprising if there was ever a suppressor that could reduce recoil as well as a muzzle brake. Any suggestions? The bolt handle is dovetailed into the bolt and can easily be removed by the end-user. I want to point out this is just one suppressor design, and it isn’t representative of all suppressors. For 308 ammo, I selected the very popular Federal Premium Gold Medal 168gr SMK Match-Grade Factory Ammo. I am looking for a brake to put on my DPMS .308 and you have helped to make my decision easy !! Try this. While suppressors and muzzle brakes do have a lot in common, they also have very different design constraints. Unfortunately, there is no industry standard for measuring recoil, which means manufacturers often publish whatever makes them look better. I’m not military, so I don’t have to worry about muzzle flash, and most of my readers are in the same camp. I heard someone say “Don’t fix happy” … so if you’re happy with them, I wouldn’t change. Reduced the recoil to that of my .308 and I think less to be honest with you. Another reader asked a very similar question, and I answere... Heath: You’re pretty much regurgitating Bryan Litz’s books with this particular present... Joe Bellicini: Once again, well done. Discussion in 'Big Stuff--7mm, 30 Cal, .338+' started by John Halter, Sep 3, 2018. I have never been nice my entire life, but I will try to be sweet.... Bill. I consider it my baseline for comparison. I like the look of sniper-308s brake, looks very nice. Hey Mate. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this content, data, or other materials is strictly prohibited without prior express and written permission from the author. The recoil data was collected using high-speed, high-resolution force sensors. Honestly, I’m not here to try to convince anyone one way or the other, but simply present the data. The PL Muzzle Brake also features exact braking surface dimensions that have been calculated to provide a particular amount of recoil reduction for the intended caliber and cartridge. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a challenger out there. - Shooters Forum, Pingback: Suppressor effectiveness - Think about this! Once again a BRILLIANT article! Get the best deals for 300 win mag muzzle brake at eBay.com. 2nd: I understand you are working with what you got, but I would love to see the addition of other brakes such as Lantac Dragon and Battlecomp. It seemed like there was a gap in the precision rifle world for an independent and data-driven approach, so I’m just trying to do what I can to help fill it! Sorry, Gregory … I’m not familiar with either of those brakes, so I couldn’t say. 3rd: If you’re looking to do another comparison, you might want to consider either doing one specifically for flash hiders, a full comparison between all muzzle devices between sound, flash, and recoil, or something to that effect. KDF, INC. is recognized world-wide as the leader in high efficiency muzzle brake technology. If the brakes from Lantac and Precision Arms came into place to perform for 308 cal, how would you guess they will place them self in the ranking wise? Will be back again . It is a standard, budget-friendly 308 rifle. The POI shift is minimal and 100% repeatable. The Best 300 Win Mag Muzzle Brake features a simple and basic design that is specially engineered to fit the 300 Win Mag Remington rifles. Some experts lean more towards that being related to the total impulse or momentum, and others think it is more linked to the peak force. Keep up the great work! (2) How best to slice the universe of available brakes based on thread patters and do the same with suppressors so that I can research and decide on a brake/suppressor pairing? Well, there are A TON of 338 brakes out there. - Page 6, Statistics for Shooters – Executive Summary, Precision & Group Size – Statistics for Shooters Part 3, Muzzle Velocity Stats – Statistics for Shooters Part 2, How To Predict The Future – Statistics For Shooters Part 1, Tactical Scopes: Field Test Results Summary & Overall Scores, Powder Temp Stability: Hodgdon Extreme vs. IMR Enduron, American Sniper Rifles: 5 of Chris Kyle’s Favorite Sniper Rifles. It seems like when the gases initially strike the baffles they’d be doing work in your favor, and a suppressor also slows down those expanding gases which spreads out the recoil and a decrease in velocity also reduces momentum. Fortis Manufacturing .300 BLK Muzzle Brake (1) $94.95 (Save $4.75) $90.20 4 models Hawkins Precision Tank ST Muzzle Brake $165.00 (Save 10%) $148.00 4 models Matador Arms The Regulator - Adjustable Muzzle Brake $229.99 (Save 35%) $149.99 I actually think this 3-part series m... Cal: Great question, Joe. It also helps you separate the different types of recoil reduction, so you could place more weight on either overall momentum or peak force, if you thought one was more important than the other. Who knows! I know people are interested, and it would be fantastic to see. Here is a look at the cartridge capacities tested, along with a couple other popular rounds for context on the size of the 300 Norma. It works great. It’s based on a recent survey I conducted of the top 125 shooters in the Precision Rifle Series (PRS) and top 50 shooters in the National Rifle League (NRL), which are points-race leagues based on the biggest long-range, field-based rifle matches across the country. A TOMB brake typically acts as the first baffle or two in the suppressor. The big question comes down to what measurement most closely correlates to perceived recoil from the shooter’s perspective. I can not get this rifle to group with any ammo I have tried. A Data-Driven Approach To Precision Rifles, Optics & Gear. I didn’t do that on purpose, and actually only thought about it when you asked … but that is a cool, accidental comparison in the data. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! - Page 6. For each set of results, I will show 3 pieces of information: To learn more about those measurements and hear the cases for both sides, please read the recoil post. 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